tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post4841575486621374411..comments2023-12-29T01:08:02.965+00:00Comments on The ferret fancier: You get what you pay for, less training more mistakesGarth Marenghihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-86371911771698938012009-05-29T05:58:41.962+01:002009-05-29T05:58:41.962+01:00I recently came across your blog and have been rea...I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don't know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.Treatment in Turkeyhttp://www.placidway.com/search/Turkey,,/search.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-10635027163257396412009-04-12T09:46:00.000+01:002009-04-12T09:46:00.000+01:00This is no different than the countless mothers wh...This is no different than the countless mothers who have been falsely accused of MSBP and their children have died. <BR/><BR/>Having spent years on the subject of MSBP none are of abuse but of NEGLIGENT treatment by doctors. <BR/><BR/>Yep, they all keep their jobs and woefully incompetent.<BR/><BR/>It is policy that needs to change. <BR/><BR/>Virus is very easy to diagnose - serious illness Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-72952628644309855562009-03-18T10:12:00.000+00:002009-03-18T10:12:00.000+00:00I'm sure you correct HNL, spelling was never my st...I'm sure you correct HNL, spelling was never my strong point - my main point still stands though, I think Ferret should share his source with us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-15446027090394986602009-03-17T22:19:00.000+00:002009-03-17T22:19:00.000+00:00Dont you mean apocryphalAt least dont show yoursel...Dont you mean apocryphal<BR/><BR/>At least dont show yourself up by not being able to spellHenry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-28973780164987536362009-03-16T22:29:00.000+00:002009-03-16T22:29:00.000+00:00Yes, Ferret - supply us with the link, or is it an...Yes, Ferret - supply us with the link, or is it an apophrycal tale from the secretive DNUK ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-86805209119845868882009-03-16T18:50:00.000+00:002009-03-16T18:50:00.000+00:00Agree on Daily Mail; but there's no need to rely o...Agree on Daily Mail; but there's no need to rely on it for that story. The coroner's narrative verdict has now been given. The story's been covered by the Telegraph, ITN, Sky News, The BBC, the local papers (Hull/Yorkshire) and so on.<BR/><BR/>It's a mistake to think that because the Mail is a right wing zenophobic right wing rag, everything it says is wrong. It's also a mistake (IMO) not to clemmatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194179328482279010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-27510719110051390912009-03-16T12:44:00.000+00:002009-03-16T12:44:00.000+00:00Not just the Daily Mail, Ferret.Allegations agains...Not just the Daily Mail, Ferret.<BR/><BR/>Allegations against doctors are being heard everyday by the GMC (fitness to practice hearings).<BR/>Interestingly the case against Dr Andrew Wakefield will be heard today (16th March).<BR/><BR/>See here<BR/>http://www.gmcpressoffice.org.uk/apps/news/events/index.php?key=0<BR/><BR/>As I say I agree with you about limiting the role of NPs - seeing children,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-41947433841766495912009-03-16T09:07:00.000+00:002009-03-16T09:07:00.000+00:00relying on the daily mail for your stories, oh dea...relying on the daily mail for your stories, oh dear oh dear<BR/><BR/>if you read the stories they are clearly spun out of all proportion,<BR/><BR/>the story I tell is of a child with abdominal pain who was not examined,<BR/><BR/>it doesn't even need sensationalising<BR/><BR/>less training and education, dumber service and more mistakes,<BR/><BR/>HCAs replace nurses, technicians replace paramedicsGarth Marenghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-2098962326764359612009-03-14T23:01:00.000+00:002009-03-14T23:01:00.000+00:00this GP, too? -- a hospital doctor in this case, t...this GP, too? -- a hospital doctor in this case, too... <BR/><BR/>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160894/Grow-stop-worrying-What-doctor-said-X-Factor-singer-months-killed-cancerous-tumours.htmlclemmatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194179328482279010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-15779376223881837862009-03-12T14:36:00.000+00:002009-03-12T14:36:00.000+00:00Lucien - do you think the GP and nurse worked at t...Lucien - do you think the GP and nurse worked at the same walk-in-centre ?<BR/><BR/>"A toddler suffering from meningitis was told by a doctor she had suffered a splinter and given a sticking plaster, her furious mother said today.<BR/><BR/>Kadi Bulloch almost lost her foot when septicaemia struck and needed five days of intensive care before beginning her recovery.<BR/><BR/>Stephanie Bulloch, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-6975796979032299962009-03-08T16:54:00.000+00:002009-03-08T16:54:00.000+00:00Ferret - think of the provenance of these sayings:...Ferret - think of the provenance of these sayings:<BR/><BR/>August = the killing season <BR/>(referring to each fresh wave of newly qualified doctors).<BR/><BR/>Or, you're not truly a doctor, until you have killed a patient.<BR/><BR/>Or, the sickest cared for by the thickest <BR/>(a reference to the lack of medical seniority during night shifts or over bank-holidays).<BR/><BR/>Medical Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-47693574713619847792009-03-08T16:16:00.000+00:002009-03-08T16:16:00.000+00:00less trained more mistakes,the same is true for th...less trained more mistakes,<BR/><BR/>the same is true for the less experienced doctors coming through some of the dumbed down modern medical schools,<BR/><BR/>an insight into one's own limitations is very important and often the less trained one is, the more unaware of one's ignorance one isGarth Marenghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-82200596442516605572009-03-08T10:20:00.000+00:002009-03-08T10:20:00.000+00:00Ferret - the formula you seem to be expounding is:...Ferret - the formula you seem to be expounding is:<BR/>One rubbish = ALL rubbish <BR/>(providing they are not doctors).<BR/><BR/>Actually, I AGREE with you that nurse quacks should not be seeing sick children (unless it's part of a multi-disciplinary process, including medics).<BR/><BR/>Having said that, many doctors seem to become rather reticent when it is one of their own who screw up, for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-1282533791805939622009-03-07T18:19:00.000+00:002009-03-07T18:19:00.000+00:00charge nurse, she was fine, thank you, eventually....charge nurse, she was fine, thank you, eventually. (That was a long time ago -- nearly fifty years ago.) But how she'd have been if she hadn't been taken to hospital then, I dread to think. Thank goodness for fathers who'd get Zero Toleranced today... .<BR/><BR/><BR/>(Intuitions of relatives; yes, well, a failure to see that relatives may know the patient so well as to have valid insight into clemmatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194179328482279010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-29491812145540087352009-03-07T11:50:00.000+00:002009-03-07T11:50:00.000+00:00denial.less training more mistakes.the child was n...denial.<BR/><BR/>less training more mistakes.<BR/><BR/>the child was not even examined.Garth Marenghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-27992456024015865412009-03-06T22:57:00.000+00:002009-03-06T22:57:00.000+00:00Rachel - isn't the point of the post to highlight ...Rachel - isn't the point of the post to highlight how nurse-quacks (who have done a couple of courses) are now killing children ?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, Jayann's experience (above) illustrates perfectly how the intuition of relatives is often the most significant factor in a consultation - I hope your Mum recovered, satisfactorily, Jayann.<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, Rachel, do you have a view on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-17109662423673324812009-03-06T22:19:00.000+00:002009-03-06T22:19:00.000+00:00A&E charge nurse - you've missed the point...A&E charge nurse - you've missed the point entirely.<BR/>This child was NOT EXAMINED!!<BR/>Anyone - be they doctor, nurse, or janitor - who puts themself in a position to make diagnostic decisions about patients should know you can't exclude appendicitis without touching the tummy. Children with painful bellies get examined, this is basic stuff.<BR/>Getting it wrong when you've Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11175190432551320745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-77043109217521571472009-03-06T21:47:00.000+00:002009-03-06T21:47:00.000+00:00Not only appendicitis, charge nurse. My father ha...Not only appendicitis, charge nurse. My father had to <STRONG>threaten</STRONG> a GP to make him get my mother admitted to hospital (severe abdominal pain, fever; she, who never took to her bed, could not rise). We thought it was appendicitis; the GP thought it wasn't worth bothering with... ; the hospital (yes, the threat worked) admitted her from A & E, and operated. (Inflamed clemmatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13194179328482279010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-4322698300696061062009-03-06T18:50:00.000+00:002009-03-06T18:50:00.000+00:00Oops - should say ...... sensible discharge advice...Oops - should say ...... sensible discharge advice (in some cases).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-85775733550889362832009-03-06T18:49:00.000+00:002009-03-06T18:49:00.000+00:00Ferret - doctors have been missing appendicitis (a...Ferret - doctors have been missing appendicitis (and meningitis) since I were a lad (see post above).<BR/><BR/>They will continue to do so until EVERY case of vague abdominal symptoms is admitted to hospital for observation.<BR/><BR/>As you know initial symptoms of appendicitis can be vague so even the most skilled clinician must rely on the patient being able to follow sensible discharge in someAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-80058534096861226852009-03-06T17:37:00.000+00:002009-03-06T17:37:00.000+00:00AE CN, the point is still there and no matter how ...AE CN, <BR/><BR/>the point is still there and no matter how much you ignore it, it will not go away!<BR/><BR/>the facts of the case you quote are not mentioned, the GP may well have examined the patient properly and may well have acted completely properly, these things sometimes happen,<BR/><BR/>he may have been negligent, doctors do make mistakes and some doctors are better than others, it's Garth Marenghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07373175498875348430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-60908073155142604032009-03-06T17:09:00.000+00:002009-03-06T17:09:00.000+00:00A woman wants an investigation into a GP who she c...A woman wants an investigation into a GP who she claims misdiagnosed her appendicitis as a stomach bug.<BR/>Christy Millar, 21, from Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, was given an injection and sent home by a doctor at the Urgent Care 24 clinic in Liverpool last May.<BR/><BR/>Her appendix burst 48 hours later, leaving her in a six-week coma.<BR/><BR/>Miss Millar's family has reported the doctor to the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-76190751082969074492009-03-06T11:43:00.000+00:002009-03-06T11:43:00.000+00:00Hello Ferret Fancy doing a piece on how the GMC a...Hello Ferret Fancy doing a piece on how the GMC are being nasty?<BR/><BR/> -----Original Message-----<BR/> From: Gillian Needham<BR/> Sent: 19 July 2008 10:18<BR/> To: PAICE, Elisabeth<BR/> Subject: Re: FW: DNUK<BR/> Thanks Lis. Quite shocking.<BR/> I will discreetly pursue.<BR/> Thank you.<BR/> Gx<BR/> >>> "PAICE, Elisabeth" 19/07/08 09:08 >&Henry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-610428148049675668.post-17652051235611252942009-03-06T10:45:00.000+00:002009-03-06T10:45:00.000+00:00Funnily enough, I was having a natter with the mis...Funnily enough, I was having a natter with the missus the other night about protocol-driven assessment by the untrained and how it'll unfortunately take a few kids given viral advice and succumbing to perforated appendicitis or meningococcaemia before some of the suits realise the flaw in their crafty money-saving scheme.<BR/><BR/>Being right is a bittersweet sensation when dead kids are involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com